Wow, did my last post get some responses... Including the suicide gankers mentioned. I guess everyone needs their 15min of fame.
Anyways, reading around the net, I have been noticing an interesting pattern. The people who have been most enjoying Star Trek online seem to be those who least like EVE Online. Now I'm sure that some people will say this hurts EVE. They are wrong. Do you get that newbie in your corp who does nothing but bitch and moan? Then when you point out ways to avoid/overcome their problems they just bitch and moan some more that your solution is not how they want to play the game? They're the type who just never seem to "get" that EVE is PvP from the moment you undock to the moment you dock up. There are more rules and consequences in high sec but it's still a PvP environment.
After a while it gets rather annoying. It's the old saying writ large: you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. After a while you begin to realize that these people are not only frustrating themselves but the rest of your corp. Well we finally have a proper space MMO to send them to that's not EVE. And from what I can read, it seems to cater to them very well. Which is good. I was getting tired of saying Hello Kitty Online is thataway. Now I can direct them to STO.
I'm probably never going to get Star Trek Online. Not enough of a crafting system to be worth it to me. Comes from being a jack of all trades. You guys may have noticed that the types of ships I tend to fly well tend to be the cloaky scouty kind of ships. Since scouting is such a large part of PvP in EVE, I get my fill of good scouting game play that way. Whether it's finding an elusive target or making sure that the combat boys are not surprised and can make informed decisions to engage or not, those are some of the great parts of EVE for me. You just don't get that in any other type of MMO than a full world non-instanced PvP MMO.
Some people like a bland, theme park, flavor to their MMOs. Other people like to use Blair's Sudden Death hot sauce. In a way I'm glad I have a bland space MMO to send these people because in the end their whining and moaning sucks the fun out of EVE faster than suicide ganking does.
So in the end, the two games being so very different means they won't really compete for audience. EVE will attract the more challenge oriented pilot, STO the more sedate theme park oriented pilot.
See I'll let you in on a little secret. In EVE the PvE stuff is not very challenging (at all). It lets you make the isk necessary to fuel your plans. That's it. Even sleepers - although more difficult than normal NPCs are not as much of a challenge as defeating an enemy fleet. Bring the right ships, know how they'll react and they can be reliably killed and processed for their chewy goodness. Other players on the other hand - that's where the challenge is. The challenge is makeing your plans work in the face of people like Red Boss and his friends. Understand that before you undock and you'll have the right mindset to survive in EVE. Get in a good corporation, learn proper PvP tactics - they'll have applications even with industrial ships. At least you'll know what limitations the other side is working with.
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